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When the Student Becomes the Teacher, Literally: A Q&A with The Marcy Lab School’s Carmen Salas

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Carmen Salas (front row, center) poses with students and other staff at The Marcy Lab School.

Over the past decade, there has been a renewed focus on prioritizing social and economic mobility for young adults as part of a larger effort to end generational poverty. Part of that focus includes transforming how, when, where and in what capacity young people can access equitable pathways to the skills and industry-aligned training necessary to get good jobs in high-demand fields.

Enter The Marcy Lab School, a free, one-year alternative to college founded by Reuben Ogbonna and Maya Bhattacharjee-Marcantonio in 2019. The school gives students from underrepresented backgrounds with career aspirations in the tech sector a cost-efficient way to develop both the technical skills needed to become a successful full-stack software engineer—such as learning accessible front-end web development, back-end web development with JavaScript, and data structures and algorithms—along with a number of critical soft skills centered on coaching, mentorship and leadership training. After just one year, Marcy Lab graduates are placed into high-paying software engineering roles, earning an average of $100,000 per year.

Carmen Salas, the first student admitted to The Marcy Lab School and a current instructor, recently talked with the Cognizant Foundation about what her experience has meant to her.

What encouraged you to pursue computer science?

Funnily enough, Karlie Kloss was the reason I started coding. Growing up, I was encouraged to follow a more traditional path: to go to college to be a lawyer or a doctor. But I was always creative and wanted to do something different. Karlie started a coding boot camp for girls because she saw there weren’t enough women in tech. The majority of my high school were women, and at our first hackathon we were the only all-female group—the rest were all boys. 

I saw immediately that not many women pursue this kind of work, which was actually very motivating. At first, I was interested in front-end tech, and saw coding as a creative outlet that sparked my interest. Eventually, I wanted to become a software engineer after joining CodeNation as a junior in high school, where I first learned how to code, and realized how attainable a career in tech could be. 

How did you find your way to Marcy Lab?

Coming out of high school, I was set on software engineering and decided to pursue a computer science degree. I went to college for only a month before I started looking for other alternatives since I was struggling to get into the classes I needed to pursue my computer science degree. When considering my next steps, my alumni manager at CodeNation connected me to Reuben right around the time he and Maya were launching The Marcy Lab School. While it was scary to drop out of college to be a part of the first-ever cohort for The Marcy Lab School, I ultimately decided on pursuing this untraditional path because I thought it would be the best option for achieving my goal of becoming a software engineer. 


From those early days, how has Marcy Lab changed?

I met Reuben and Maya when The Marcy Lab School was just an idea—it was virtually impossible to imagine then the kind of journey we’d go on over these last few years. When I started, there were nine of us in a small room with a few monitors and whiteboards on the walls. Today, we have a 16,500-square-foot campus in Industry City in Brooklyn, with a view of the Statue of Liberty and nearly 60 admitted students will join us in the fall.

And to bring things full circle, KodeWithKlossy was hosted at our campus this summer, and I participated in a panel with some of my female students for the KodewithKlossy campers. Karlie Kloss even came to visit

Carmen+and+Karlie+Kloss_2022 Karlie Kloss (L) with Carmen Salas (R) at The Marcy Lab School’s campus in Industry City.

How did you become an instructor instead of taking a coding job after Marcy Lab?

After I graduated, Marcy Lab partnered with the Bedford Stuyvesant Restoration Corporation to start The Breakthrough Fellowship. It was a unique opportunity for Marcy to bring on a spring cohort and support a class of students who all had coding experience but just needed the right boost to break into the tech world. I didn’t initially plan to teach, but they wanted a Marcy alum to join the team and Reuben asked me to take what I had learned as a student, and help carry that experience forward for others.

After that, I interned for a summer with the New York Times. Towards the end of that experience, The Marcy Lab School asked me to return. Initially, it was a hard choice since I had planned on being a software engineer for so long. Then I thought of the impact Marcy Lab left on me, and how I wouldn’t even be in the position to compete for six-figure salaries if not for them. I’m also probably the first Latina software engineer in a lot of spaces, and I wanted to pass down my experience to others. Now I’m a Senior Associate Instructor. 

Finding a workplace you love is hard, so it has been incredible to return and be a part of a place that was easy for me to love from the start.

What excites you about the future of Marcy Lab?

So many of our fellows are where they are today because they know an alum. I’m seeing it even in my family! My cousins are coming from Utah after seeing what I’ve been able to accomplish and how Marcy Lab helped to get me to where I am today. It’s exciting to see that ripple effect on friends and family. 

We’re changing communities first-hand by helping fellows who grew up in economically disadvantaged neighborhoods reach their goals, which includes getting their own apartment and achieving financial freedom, all while being able to help their families. Knowing I had a hand in that is super fulfilling, and I’m excited for the lives we’ll be impacting in the future.

Learn more about The Marcy Lab School here


Photo credits: The Marcy Lab School

Guest writer/editor: Connor Lloyd